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ANZ Chapter President, Julian McNally, Radio Interview Feb 2024

In this interview conducted by ABC Radio Newcastle at the beginning of the ANZ ACBS Chapter Conference, Julian explains for the general public the difference between CBS and other approaches to psychology, how values provide a context for behavior change, examples of defusion and the impossibility of changing thoughts, and outlines the close links in the ACBS community between practitioners and researchers. 

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